Terrific work. I had forgotten about the various subtle changes to the "those that saw 1914" definition which is the only one that makes any sense. The problem is that they can't change the beginning of the last days so the only way they can work around the obvious fact that the end they predicted hasn't come yet is to change the definition of a simple word.
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Confused about the current generation teaching? Get your Watchtower Generation chart
by truthseeker inenjoy!.
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http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4126/generationh.jpg.
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So, how much $$ would you anonymously pledge?
by Open mind ina letter dated december 7, 2009 to all congregations (not sure if it was just the us branch or not) said that the elders should ask the publishers to submit slips of paper anonymously with an amount they would be willing to contribute each month towards either:.
a: repaying the outstanding, local, kingdom hall loan, or.
b: if there is no local loan, contributing to the kingdom hall construction fund.. .
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This sure does smell like a step in the tithing direction! Take that quote from Russell about not begging for money and turn that in!
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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wow. The 08 definition uncoupled "this generation" from the last days since my understanding of the WTS definition of generation was simply "the annointed". So as long as there are JW "annointed" left (which shouldn't be a problem given the huge increase this year) then they were ok. While this worked well from the standpoint of explaining why the end hadn't come yet, it was even worse from the standpoint of creating any urgency. Really, the 95 change took the air out of the movement although not as bad as the 75 debacle.
So, I think what this new definition does is attempts to put another deadline for the end. I swear I think they are attempting to set up a new end date of 2034 (comparing Noah's "preaching" for 120 years prior to the flood with the 120 anniversary of 1914). They've already hinted at comparing Noah's 120 of preaching to JW activity today.
Still, I think they would have been better off with the 08 definition because it was flexible enough to spin away.
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Massive earthquake. Haiti doesn't get a break.
by BurnTheShips inport-au-prince (reuters) - a major earthquake hit the impoverished country of haiti on tuesday, collapsing buildings in the capital port-au-prince and burying residents under rubble, a reuters reporter in the city said.. he said he saw dozens of dead and injured people in the rubble, which blocked streets in the city.. the epicenter of the quake was located inland, only 10 miles from the capital port-au-prince and was very shallow at a depth of only 6.2 miles.. it prompted a tsunami watch for parts the caribbean, the pacific tsunami warning center said on tuesday.. "everything started shaking, people were screaming, houses started collapsing ... it's total chaos," reuters reporter joseph guyler delva said.
"i saw people under the rubble, and people killed," he added.. a local employee for the u.s. charity food for the poor reported seeing a five-storey building collapse in port-au-prince, a spokeswoman for the group, kathy skipper, told reuters.. another food for the poor employee said there were more houses destroyed than standing in delmas road, a major thoroughfare in the city.. panic-stricken residents filled the streets desperately trying to dig people from rubble or seeking missing relatives as dark fell shortly after the quake.. "people were screaming 'jesus, jesus' and running in all directions," delva said.. a major earthquake, of magnitude 7 or higher, is capable of causing widespread and heavy damage.
there was no immediate report of damage or casualties.. the tsunami center said the watch was in effect for haiti, the neighboring dominican republic, with which it shares the island of hispaniola, cuba and the bahamas.. "a destructive widespread tsunami threat does not exist based on historical earthquake and tsunami data," the center said.
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RR - I hope your family is well. Strength to you & your family.
The pictures are almost overwhelming and I heard on the radio some reports that the death toll could push 500,000. This is a terrible combination of a powerful natural force hitting a very crowded area with poor construction. Let's hope that the relief efforts can help save some of the folks still trapped.
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If the Watchtower truly collapsed, how would you deal with your JW relatives?
by nicolaou inimagine the best case scenario.
the watchtower society implodes from within even making final printed admissions that it is voluntarily dismantling it's mission and legally dissolving the corporations.
oh happy day!
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First, I don't see that happening so suddenly. But, if it did, I could see some local elders who would seize the opportunity and start a spin-off JW religion. In time, it would pick up a percentage of former JWs that would refuse to believe the WTS was wrong. It would be spun into some sort of prophetic fulfillment and a new cult would be born.
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I Believe McNabb Is Tired
by snowbird inhe should move over and allow room for michael vick.. did anyone see vick's touchdown pass against dallas in the playoff?.
awesome!.
a little something from vick's bio: .
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babygirl30 - at least they made the playoffs! My skins were dreadful this year.
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The Assembly Experiences - Standard Format
by sd-7 inmatthew 6:1: "take good care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your father who is in the heavens.".
"now we'd like to call to the platform brother so-and-so, a [let's face it, capital letters should be used] regular pioneer and elder in the blah-blah-blah congregation.
brother so-and-so, what helped you to put kingdom interests first?".
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Exactly except what was left out of the experience is that what actually happened was the employer approached all employees and told them that everyone's hours were going to be cut to part-time to avoid having to do layoffs. Or that Brother So & So is still working part time at that employer but also has another part time position to make ends meet.
Those experiences in additon to being highly scripted are also "enhanced" shall we say. The worst example I've ever seen was a brother who had a "high stress" job and no time for field service. So he prayed to be able to study with someone and "bring them into the truth". The next year, his student got baptized. He repeated the request 2 more times and each time the student got baptized. The rest of the story I found out later because I was talking to him (Both of us worked in administration) was that the students in question were actually HIS CHILDREN! I was floored and told him I thought they were folks he met in fs since that was the implication. He was embarrased because he thought it was misleading but that's what the DO wanted so that's how he told it.
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I Believe McNabb Is Tired
by snowbird inhe should move over and allow room for michael vick.. did anyone see vick's touchdown pass against dallas in the playoff?.
awesome!.
a little something from vick's bio: .
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I'd take McNabb over Vick anyday, its really not even close. The Eagles would be insane to get rid of McNabb unless they plan on doing major rebuilding and I don't think they need to do that.
If I were the Eagles, I trade Vick to some sucker for a midround draft pick. I'm sure the Skins would jump on that although Shanny I'm sure would try to block it.
Campbell is an adequate QB but I still think he has trouble quickly reading defenses and needs to speed up his release. If he's on a team where he doesn't have to carry the load, he ok. Otherwise (see this year). he's in trouble. I really wanted him to succeed since the Skins traded up in the 1st round to get him but at this point, I don't think he was worth it. They need to draft some o-linemen and then pick up a qb next year.
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Have you ever say the word f you to the elders? Do you know others that has done it before?
by asilentone in.
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does one elder saying it to another in an argument count?
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses a Christian denomination? The Feb. Watchtower seems to say so
by slimboyfat ini have not noticed the witnesses referring to themselves in the literature as a christian denomination before: is this a new development?
the february 1st wt says on page 22:.
"a high-school textbook, world religions in denmark, published in 2007, described jehovah's witnesses as a christian minority who follow the bible closely.
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Doubting Bro
Public edition, right? There's your answer, marketing.